I know it’s been a while since I posted any updates here, but I finally had something happen to me that I thought was memorable. Over the weekend I participated in a very wild game. The table kept from seven to nine players almost the whole night. A new player from Lexington was behaving very aggressively, which I found irksome since I’d more or less been table captain up until the time that he arrived, but a couple of bad beats, both of me and of some other players who helped chip up my competition, more or less pushed me to the sideline of the action on most of the hands. I had to tighten up considerably after the flop, and that isn’t particularly in line with my new style. Lately I’ve loosened up my post flop game to pick up a few extra pots and also to help cultivate an action image, which is helpful if you frequently go twenty minutes between playing hands. I like to push other players around, and these guys just weren’t being pushed. I just mention that to set the stage, and it really has not much to do with the story except for the new player’s aggression. A particular hand came up where I was in next-to-last position with AK offsuit. I don’t remember how the action developed pre-flop, but four players went to the flop with nearly three hundred dollars in the pot. I still had three hundred or so, and as I said I’d been getting my head knocked around by the aggressive player on my left all night, so I wasn’t betting if I didn’t hit. After all, what does a three hundred dollar pot cost to buy? Betting a lot in that position might just be asking for a raise from the two players in front of me. I hit nothing on the flop and it was checked around, and the turn was checked around as well. I’d more or less given up the pot, because I was sure if I bet here I’d get a slow-player. When the two in front of me checked on the river, I nearly bet my ace high, but decided to check instead. If their hands were really that bad I might even take it down without a contest. Betting on the river with a hand that might just win at a showdown but certainly can’t stand a raise seems unduly risky in my mind anyway. After I checked the aggressive player to my left bet all-in for his last eighty dollars. The players in front of me folded after some hesitation by the player on my immediate right. While this was transpiring a few things occurred to me. First of all, in my decision making process to check and not to be on the river, I thought I might just win with AK, because it had caused me to think of what the player to my left might be holding that he would call or bet into the pot pre-flop and then check all the way down. I thought two over-cards was his likely hand. The flop had mostly been small cards, with a jack being the highest. The river had been another small card, I think a four. I put him on either AK as I had, AQ, my hopeful choice obviously, or else the four made him trips on the river or a straight. I didn’t think my AK was the likely winner, but with the pot odds being so high and my own stack still being plentiful if I called and lost I decided to call with AK. While I was making my decision, I had looked over at Anthony (I had been taking a little while making up my mind) and said, “Man, I don’t have a pair.” He said, “Well, I guess you’ve got a difficult decision then.” I agreed, and finally called. When I did, the other player said, “You got me, all I have is ace king.” He thought I’d told Anthony that I had a pair. I showed him my ace king. I never wished anyone had foolishly mucked their cards so much. After he saw what I called him down with he declared it the stupidest call ever. How could I call eighty dollars with no pair? He finally told me he thought it was a brilliant call, but I’m not sure he was serious. In my mind though, I was foolish to consider folding. If my read is right in that situation one out of three times I’m making money, not to mention that calling someone with that kind of hand doesn’t encourage people to try to buy pots from you, and that also fits well with my style, since when I don’t have what I think is the best hand or at least proper odds to find out, I have no problem letting them go.
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In all honesty I thought it was a good call. You had almost 5:1 odds on your money and his last $80 was not enough of your stack to blow you off that size pot. So, the simplest math was enough to call, by itself.
There were other reasons I thought it was a good call. One, he pushed his money in way too fast at the end, which to me was a sign of weakness on the part. Given what was on the board after the flop -- J-4-5, I believe -- for him to check his hand on both the flop and turn strongly suggested he missed, especially given his aggressive style to that point, and going on all in like that on the river seemed like pretty clear desperation. Frankly I thought he had a worse hand than he really did and when you showed A-K, I thought you had it won (I hadn't seen your cards prior to that reveal). If it had been me, I would have called even quicker; it seemed like he felt he didn't have much competition at the table and he was trying to buy a lot. I thought he was a decent enough player but that wasn't the right time to push, and I don't think it was really fair to suggest you made a "dumb" call. Then again, whenever someone gets called down like that by someone who doesn't have a very strong hand themselves, they always call that a dumb call.
So, I was a big fan of that call. It was great in the moment... and more than luck. made me feel some pride in our little ol' three-man game, even I did catch shit and play like shit all that night.
Are we playing again Labor Day weekend?
-- Aaron
I don't know. I hadn't considered until this moment that the next scheduled game is the weekend after that, being the first Saturday of the month. That's also the day my first weekend class starts, and being over in Mount Sterling at nine o'clock on Friday night is going to make that drive up to the barn seem awfully short. On the other hand I have to be in class on Saturday morning, and there's little doubt the local game is a bit more lucrative at this point. Anthony talked about this weekend, but no one seemed really enthusiastic. Having a game on Labor Day might not be as well attended if people are out on the road. I'm sure we could get a quorum though.
Incidentally in regards to the other hand I think you were asking about, the one where I started with AJ and flopped a jack after two hundred dollars fell in the pot, he eventually did call and after the turn I had all the clubs, the aces, the sevens, and the some other rank I can't place to draw out, but unfortunately didn't make it. I was left with around twenty bucks. I finally took a stab with a decent little hand but didn't win. I bought back in and got right back into the game when I caught JTs my first hand and hit top two pair. Got it all in with two players in there with me.
That hand was a controversy in itself, since two hands later I caught nothing, went to the john and realized I'd been cheated out of sixty bucks when we split up the pot. The benefitting player comped me half of it back, and I whined until I got the other half from our gracious host after the session had ended. If I had gotten nothing I guess I would have had to accept it, but I think it might have tilted me enough to go home to feel so cheated. I very much shared in the blame though. The first bet after the flop grew to one hundred dollars and since I had started the hand with one hundred dollars I splashed the pot with all my chips in my call. When we sorted it out we chopped out forty seven from the two players I couldn't match, but then later I remembered that I had made the initial bet of thirty so there should only have been seventeen times two on the side and not forty-seven times two. The rules were not with me, not having realized it until two hands later, but I felt that gentlemanly conduct and common sense were.
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